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Professional => Vendors and sources => Topic started by: Gear Dynamics on March 31, 2015, 01:07:07 PM

Title: Foam Padding
Post by: Gear Dynamics on March 31, 2015, 01:07:07 PM
I'm looking for input on foam padding. What do you guys use? I'm trying to optimize my materials for my products in order to see if there is a better solution than what I'm currently using. Right now I'm using a product called EV50 (Product Page (http://www.norseman.ca/products/construction/foundation-infrastructure-foam/nor-flex-ev50-ev380/)) in sheets that are only 1/8" thick, but I need the foam to be more resistant to compression and rigid, especially over time. I'd like to avoid going to a thicker material, as this will take away from the concept of the gear. 
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: SunriseTacticalGear on March 31, 2015, 04:54:15 PM
This is what I'm currently using for tripod bags as a padding between the inner liner and outer shell.
Scott
https://www.jennisfabrics.com/jennis-web-core/productProfile.jef?prdCode=00006972&invType=REG
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: Fouinard on March 31, 2015, 05:31:39 PM
I'm using Plastazote 1 cm (~3/8") for straps and pack backpanels with a density of 33kg/m3 density, if I remember correctly. Also 3 mm (~1/8") which is really thin for some small pouches and 5 mm (~3/16") for chestrig straps/panel padding and small pack backpanels with a 45kg/m3 density.

I believe EV is Evazote, I used to use that in 8 mm (~5/16") thickness it has a neoprene feeling but I think it's too soft/"smooth", Plastazote tends to better get back to it's original state after being compressed.

What do you want to use it for?
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: Gear Dynamics on March 31, 2015, 10:51:47 PM
I'm using the foam for padding in my rigs and harnesses. I want the optimal foam. Right now the EV50 is pretty good, better when laminated to at least one layer of Cordura, but I think it could be better. Time for more samples I guess...
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: jw9673 on April 24, 2015, 08:35:31 PM
I'm not a production shop, but only a hobbyist. In my search I found this. I'm not sure of your wholesale cost but the tech specs on this show it to be a great substitute.
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: Gear Dynamics on April 24, 2015, 09:50:25 PM
What did you find?
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: jw9673 on April 30, 2015, 05:54:43 AM
Sorry the link didn't stick.. I'll try again.
http://store.acor.com/acor-p-cell-eva-foam/
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: Martial Concepts on April 30, 2015, 08:56:57 AM
Looks promising. How does it behave in hot/cold temperature?  I don't want something that turns steel hard in freezing temperatures.
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: jw9673 on April 30, 2015, 09:44:26 PM
I'm sure its fine in hot temps as its for orthotic shoe inserts.. as for cold, I will let you know when I order some for a project.. I'll have to throw a piece in the freezer though, not many blizzards here in central FL.. :)
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: Martial Concepts on May 11, 2015, 12:13:45 PM
Did you ever order the foam and try it out?
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: Disturbed on May 13, 2015, 02:58:23 AM
http://www.ultralon.co.nz/

That's who I use for my foam, I basically talk to them about the application I need it for and they steer me in the direction of the right foam.  A PE foam I use a lot they developed for sleeping mats for the NZDF, its specced to stay flexible at -10 celcius which I've found useful for pack straps.  I can also get them to laminate foams for me and I have some PE35/EV60 which are fuzed so less chance of a separation from gluing.
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: BOgear on May 13, 2015, 03:40:15 AM
I use both 5mm and 10mm foam for our products. It is a PU/EVA blend and works well for most of our applications. We've optimised all of our products to use this material rather than having multiple foams (can't get away from needing two thicknesses). It is a 45kg density. I have experimented with less dense (25-30kg density) but these compress out over time and don't give long lasting results. For 1/8inch / 3mm you would probably be better with a heavier density (but flipside is heavier weight).

Full tech specifications, and supplier link (in Australia): http://www.3hfoam.com.au/pdf/WB45.pdf (http://www.3hfoam.com.au/pdf/WB45.pdf)
(Also mentions operating temperature, but I've only personally tested it between 10 - 45 degrees Celsius.) FYI, WB4510 is the code (WB is the blend, 45 is the density, 10 is the thickness)

Supplier stocks 10mm and can split it to thinner thicknesses, or bond/fuze (like @disturbed's supplier) it together for a thicker build. Supplier also does some basic pressed moulded products (think swimming kickboards) should this interest.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: Gear Dynamics on May 13, 2015, 11:53:56 AM
Thanks guys. The replies are excellent and I'll post results if I come across a good solution.
Title: Re: Foam Padding
Post by: 762Tactical on July 30, 2015, 09:46:01 PM
I use the 1/4" Mini-cell or Cross-Linked Polyethylene for most everything. It's really nice for shoulder pads/padded belts.  http://www.thefoamfactory.com/closedcellfoam/cross-linked-polyethylene-foam.html  (http://www.thefoamfactory.com/closedcellfoam/cross-linked-polyethylene-foam.html) Free shipping for orders over $75 but I typically order 5 to 8 sheets at a time.