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Professional => Vendors and sources => Topic started by: gearmaker.org on November 20, 2014, 05:01:49 PM

Title: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: gearmaker.org on November 20, 2014, 05:01:49 PM
There are endless sources of information regarding textiles and manufacturing in the free world.

If you have a source you'd like to share, please reply to this post and we'll add it.

Carolina Textile District (https://www.facebook.com/carolinatextiledistrict)

Manufacturing Solutions Center (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Manufacturing-Solutions-Center/148104195251885)

SOCOM Technical Experimentation (https://www.facebook.com/SOCOMTE) 

Soldier Systems (http://soldiersystems.net/)

SEAMS (http://www.seams.org/)

Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Shaddox Tactical on November 24, 2014, 11:34:59 AM
Links not working.

Just letting you know that the links for:

Manufacturing Solutions Center
SOCOM Technical Experimentation
Soldier Systems
and you "And Here" link aren't working with my Safari browser.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: gearmaker.org on November 24, 2014, 12:15:59 PM
Fixed!  Thank you.

Links not working.

Just letting you know that the links for:

Manufacturing Solutions Center
SOCOM Technical Experimentation
Soldier Systems
and you "And Here" link aren't working with my Safari browser.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Diz on November 27, 2014, 04:40:20 PM
We are looking for a good source of Multicam fabrics in smaller quantities.  We were buying from Duro in 5 yd increments, but the new vendor only wants to sell full rolls.  Anyone know of a good middle-man that will sell by the yard or so?  Right now all I've found is Rocky Woods Fabric, which is a good vendor, but a little pricey.  Is this just the new price increase or have you guys found any other sources?

Push come to shove, would any of you guys be interested in doing a group buy?     
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Shaddox Tactical on November 27, 2014, 08:19:37 PM
I have bought five yard increments of Multicam Corudra from Gerald Schwartz Inc. several times in the past with good results, although it's been several months since I bought the last batch so I'm not 100% sure its' still available today.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Gear Dynamics on November 27, 2014, 10:51:45 PM
We are looking for a good source of Multicam fabrics in smaller quantities.  We were buying from Duro in 5 yd increments, but the new vendor only wants to sell full rolls.  Anyone know of a good middle-man that will sell by the yard or so?  Right now all I've found is Rocky Woods Fabric, which is a good vendor, but a little pricey.  Is this just the new price increase or have you guys found any other sources?

Push come to shove, would any of you guys be interested in doing a group buy?   

Contact Ben Galpen at 1947, LLC. They are the new MultiCam distributor. They have also partnered with Texcel and can provide webbing in every colour.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Diz on November 28, 2014, 05:59:27 AM
Appreciate the comeback.  My partner Hawkeye contacted them already and said they wanted full roll minimums.  Maybe if a few guys were interested in a group buy we could swing it, but we can't afford that right now on our own. 

Maybe it would help if a few of us little guys contacted them and requested 5 yd mims like Duro used to do? Or not.  You never know.       
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Gear Dynamics on November 28, 2014, 11:11:14 AM
On the price list they sent me for MultiCam products, the have a price column for "less that 75yds". Ben also told me direct via email they can sell smaller amount no problem. They will also ship through the regular USPS postal system, so for me, that means no ridiculous brokerage fees!
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Martial Concepts on November 28, 2014, 01:58:14 PM
I got some Multicam Black and Arid from Duro a couple of weeks ago and asked about them carrying Multicam again.  They stated that they were in the license renewal process with Crye and would hopefully be back into production by years end.  They said they would be cutting back on the varieties of fabric but that 1000D, 500D, 330, etc. would still be available, as well as the new colors.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Diz on November 29, 2014, 06:52:08 AM
That's really good news.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Kord on December 06, 2014, 09:20:33 AM
I used to purchase from Duro as well, did so for a few years.  This past year every time I called I had to talk to someone different and sadly they weren't and knowledgeable as my previous contacts.

Then there was this about a month ago http://soldiersystems.net/2014/11/14/camo-wars-heat-crye-precision-sues-duro-textiles-copyright-infringement/#comments   :-[
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Hawkeye on December 10, 2014, 09:40:33 AM
On the price list they sent me for MultiCam products, the have a price column for "less that 75yds". Ben also told me direct via email they can sell smaller amount no problem. They will also ship through the regular USPS postal system, so for me, that means no ridiculous brokerage fees!

That's good to know, as I got pricing from Ben back when they first got started up. I was under the impression that they (1947) were only doing overseas/international sales and that Brookwood was handling domestic. If that's not accurate and 1947 will sell the smaller quantities then problem solved.

As for Texcel, yeah, that's been my go-to source for a few years now for webbing.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Gear Dynamics on December 18, 2014, 01:23:21 AM
Ok after putting some orders through 1947, I can say the experiance has been less than ideal. I can't really discern the function of this company. I submitted two purchase orders, one for Brookwood and one for Texcel,  to 1947. Shortly after sending them, I was contacted directly by a rep from each of the respective companies. There was some back and forth via email and then I paid directly to each company. SO...why the middle man? What function do they serve? In the case of my Brookwood order, they requested some changes be made to my purchase order, so I revised it, and recieved ANOTHER email from 1947 telling me to send any revisions first to them. The whole situation seems ridiculous. I was expecting to deal with one company for the whole transaction, but instead, I dealt with three!

I can clarify that 1947 is the official "distributor" for MultiCam's international sales, and Canada falls into that category. Hopefully duro jumps back on the bandwagon and I can order small quantities online again. It was MUCH more convenient!
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: mogensbeck on December 18, 2014, 03:46:10 AM
You are not the only one with the problem. Its a huge nightmare to order things now.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Tardigrade Tactical on December 18, 2014, 06:26:28 AM
Tell me about it... I initiated contact to Duro spring 2014. Shortly after (without notifying me) Ben Galben aka 1947 LLC took over the sale of MultiCam to international customers. He is not used to handling customers, think. His inventory lacked the most fabrics and he treated me as a domestic customer: I'm not fluent in American English business-abbreviations, which I think he found quite annoying. I ignored it - I wanted my fabrics. Long story short AND after correspondence directly with Brookwoods (they seem ok, though...) I have had way to many problems with 1947 LLC, than one should expect. And I kind of gave up on it...

Working with 1947 LLC is a big mistake from Texcel. The guys and gals at Texcel has some of the best customer-service I have ever experienced from a US-based company (I live in Denmark, Europe).

I hope 1947 LLC gets their s**t straight, so that they are actually worth working with. No s**t - the time (money) spent waiting for e-mail responses and information from 1947 LLC is better used with a more expensive retailer.
 
I'm going to try 1947 LLC out, one more time in 2015. Time will tell if it's worth the time.

Birk
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Shaddox Tactical on December 19, 2014, 11:59:46 AM
Although this thread seems to have become a Multicam thread I wanted to mention a supplier for other materials.

For the closed cell polyethylene foam that I use in half my products I use Foam Factory Inc at www.foambymail.com, not to be confused with The Foam Factory at www.thefoamfactory.com who is a lot more expensive.
Their prices per foot or yard of foam is competitive but once you factor in their free shipping on a 50 foot roll of foam they blow the competition out of the water.  Some of the other guys charge as much for shipping as they do the roll of foam.  The last couple times I have ordered a roll of foam from them the whole 50 foot roll was $99 delivered and the shipping only took a couple of days.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Bootcat on January 16, 2015, 04:06:53 AM
With my US shipping address, I'm still dealing directly with Texcel even if they are aware that my company is in France. I believe the pricing is the same that 1947 offers. Nothing against Mr Galpen, I've been in touch with him when he worked for Duro, but no point in dealing with a wholesaler if I meet the factory minimums. The Cordura orders are another thing of course.

BTW, does anyone have a good source for 500D Ranger Green Cordura, IRR treated? I used to get that through Duro, not possible anymore. Brookwood only offers 1000D. There's an Ebay seller that I use but that source may dry up anytime.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Disturbed on January 27, 2015, 02:03:18 AM
Bootcat have you tried MMI (http://www.mmitextiles.com/)
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Bootcat on January 27, 2015, 12:23:15 PM
Thanks, I had forgotten about them.  ;)
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Hawkeye on February 06, 2015, 10:46:31 AM
On the price list they sent me for MultiCam products, the have a price column for "less that 75yds". Ben also told me direct via email they can sell smaller amount no problem. They will also ship through the regular USPS postal system, so for me, that means no ridiculous brokerage fees!

That's good to know, as I got pricing from Ben back when they first got started up. I was under the impression that they (1947) were only doing overseas/international sales and that Brookwood was handling domestic. If that's not accurate and 1947 will sell the smaller quantities then problem solved.

As for Texcel, yeah, that's been my go-to source for a few years now for webbing.

Just to follow up on this, I have confirmed 1947 only sells to international customers, not US based companies, and Brookwood only sells by the full 50 yard roll. They will not cut a roll, period. This is a real pain in the rear for me, as now I'm left with having to buy from a retailer like Rockywoods at 3 times the cost per yard. Its almost like they are intentionally trying to make it difficult for smaller US based companies to do items in Multicam.  Sigh......
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Stoner63A on February 26, 2015, 12:24:16 AM
I just bought some Multicam-print Omega Mesh thru 1947LLC.com on Nov 19th, which got routed to BrookwoodCos.com.  I only ordered 10yds of the Omega Mesh so there was a $10 cut fee, order was shipped COD for certified funds because I didn't meet their $250 min order for credit card payments.  I got it less than a week after ordering.
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: WPJ on February 26, 2015, 07:46:39 AM
At 3x the cost that's about 16y.  I'm sure there is an opportunity to split a roll in the forum/group 

On the price list they sent me for MultiCam products, the have a price column for "less that 75yds". Ben also told me direct via email they can sell smaller amount no problem. They will also ship through the regular USPS postal system, so for me, that means no ridiculous brokerage fees!

That's good to know, as I got pricing from Ben back when they first got started up. I was under the impression that they (1947) were only doing overseas/international sales and that Brookwood was handling domestic. If that's not accurate and 1947 will sell the smaller quantities then problem solved.

As for Texcel, yeah, that's been my go-to source for a few years now for webbing.

Just to follow up on this, I have confirmed 1947 only sells to international customers, not US based companies, and Brookwood only sells by the full 50 yard roll. They will not cut a roll, period. This is a real pain in the rear for me, as now I'm left with having to buy from a retailer like Rockywoods at 3 times the cost per yard. Its almost like they are intentionally trying to make it difficult for smaller US based companies to do items in Multicam.  Sigh......
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: essal on March 02, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
If you want to get an idea about how yarns and fabrics are made, I'd recommend Cotton University.org (http://cottonuniversity.org).

It's free for students, and might be for others as well. It's a fantastic resource if you want to get a better understanding of all the processes required for the fabrics you use.
Edit: Oh it's mostly videos, so you don't really have to read a bunch of books ;)
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: SunriseTacticalGear on January 21, 2016, 08:33:35 PM
I got a chance to visit with Ben Galpen today at Shot show, I told him about our gear making group (which he was already aware of) I explained to him that there were a lot of people that couldn't meet the 1 roll minimum order quantity from Brookwoods and if he would be willing to sell smaller quantities, he said that he would be willing to work with us and sell 5 yard minumums.
I wasn't aware of the problems that people have had in the past but I will try to make time tomorrow and see him again and ask him to address those issues.

Scott
Title: Re: Textiles industry information sources
Post by: Gear Dynamics on January 22, 2016, 12:20:42 AM
That's good. I've ordered twice through the company now. The second time was smoother but I still don't like having to deal with two different people from two different companies for one fabric order. Out of the 25-30 companies I purchase things from regularly, this is the only situation where this occurs.