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Whiskey Two-Four are pleased to add 1", 2", and 3" MIL-W-5664 type 2 class 1, solution dyed, Berry compliant elastic. 4" and 5" elastic is available too.

Fresh production Velcro Brand Type II Class 4 (trimmed selvage) Berry compliant, milspec, 6" hook and loop. By the yard- $6.00/yard. By the 50 yard roll, $3.20/yard.  Black, ranger, and coyote.

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Trimmed selvage is less fatiguing for sewing machine operators and cuts more consistently in automatic strip cutters.

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Vendors and sources / Re: Zippers
« on: March 15, 2019, 11:31:02 AM »
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Service exchange / WTF cut and sew
« on: January 11, 2019, 09:46:28 AM »
WTF laser cut and sew products to your specifications using our stocked, USA made, Berry compliant, solution dyed, milspec fabrics in ranger green, black, coyote brown, and Multicam.


    -OEM, ODM, and contract sewing; short (QTY 10 per color per style) to long runs
    -Milspec printed tags and apparel care labels
    -Warehouse & dropship your products with a legal, fictitious address to conceal origin
    -White background product photography w/optional props and models
    -Rapid CAD, patternmaking, BOM, TDP, etc and prototyping and development
    -Contract laser cutting up to 66" x 98"
    -Laminating of almost anything to almost anything
    -Reducing costs by ensuring proper execution the first time
    -Self contained operations;  Our costing, design, cutting, sewing, marketing, photography, warehousing, and logistics are under one climate controlled roof.

Purchasing options:

    -Individual and blanket purchase orders
    -IMPAC, GPCs, government purchasing cards, discretionary funds
    -Wire transfer, bank drafts, major credit and debit cards via website checkout

Freight options:

    -Common carrier, LTL, trailer, and container freight options
    -Palletized and custom crated freight on carrier of choice or best rate
    -All shipments are offered FCA Phoenix, AZ, USA

A history of performance:

    -WTF have successfully delivered hundreds of thousands of good parts over more than 13 years of business.
    -WTF have constantly introduced materials, technologies, and processes at an affordable price for integration by other manufacturers.
    -WTF have been recognized over the years by notable industry publications.

Sustainability & continuity:

    -A pricing model to pay above average talent an above average wage is the foundation of this company.  Good pay increases employee morale and product quality.  Good pay reduces turnover, brain drain, and associated costs with training new labor.  The employee benefits from good pay.  The enthusiast, patrolman, and serviceman benefit from a well compensated employee with financial motivation to produce a good part.  WTF ultimately benefit from an employee with good pay.  We take pride in taking care of the employee who take care of your parts.  In the War On Wages; Just Say No to prison labor, slave labor, and undercompensated labor in developed and developing nations.

    -Self contained operations;  Our costing, design, cutting, and sewing operations are on site and under one roof.  This significantly reduces time and cost associated with product development.

    -A flexible workforce;  Maintaining a flexible pool of qualified, trained labor enables us to be responsive and accommodating to our employees' changing scheduling needs.  Moreover, we can scale for production capacity demand as necessary without major interruption to daily operations.

    -All manufacturing and warehouse space is air conditioned and heated year round for employee comfort and focus on your products.  WTF constantly update equipment with the latest, ergonomic, and human friendly options.  We focus on reducing employee fatigue so they may better concentrate on producing a good part.

   -Manufacturing operations are in Phoenix, Arizona far from natural disaster and political and economic instability.  Arizona's infrastructure is new and well managed with reliable roads, airports, power, water, and fiber.  Arizona's stable, relatively mild weather allows for three shift, 7 day a week operations year round as necessary.  When seasonal or unexpected natural disasters paralyze operations in other regions, we're producing.

    -A financially responsible ownership;  We're much more interested in building a long term revenue generating apparatus than refinancing real estate and buying toys.  We live modestly, drive modestly, and minimize participation in high risk activities.
    We spend as much time researching legal professionals as we do our processes and machinery.  We retain these professionals.  We listen to them.  A proactive legal team ensure compliance with applicable laws and regulations to ensure uninterrupted daily operations.

WTF are a complete conversion, manufacturing, and logistical solution for your gear designs.  We can consistently deliver parts to your specifications and destinations.

NDAs are accepted electronically in PDF form from your counsel's email address for inspection and evaluation with a $250 inspection and evaluation fee.  The fee is credited to your first order.  Working with so many designers and manufacturers often results in receiving similar requests from multiple customers, convergent evolution, and similar circumstances.  NDAs, non comps, etc, are typically too vague and potentially disruptive to our business as an agreement with one party could preclude us from doing business with another.  If you have an adversarial, suspicious, xenophobic, or similar mindset toward vendors please look elsewhere.

Our OEM services exist to create a sustainable income for our employees, your brand, and WTF.  It's in our best interest to take excellent care of our customers.  Backdooring parts and otherwise alienating customers is not a sustainable business model.  WTF make specialized materials and manufacturing processes affordable and readily available to those who may be otherwise unable to access them.  Moreover, we have experience with a vast width and breadth of materials and their respective applications within and beyond the textiles realm.

There is an astonishing collection of high performance machinery and talent within our operation.  We like to keep our machinery producing and our talent engaged.  Whether revenue is generated through our brand or yours is irrelevant to us.



Introductions / Re: Hello from North Texas
« on: December 21, 2018, 08:36:07 AM »
Welcome aboard.  Thank you for participating

Introductions / Re: Hello from North Texas
« on: December 20, 2018, 11:25:05 AM »

This is an environment of sharing and encouragement.  This is not a place for shenanigans.

Respect yourself and others.  Be cool.

Don't stomp others' posts.  If you have criticism to offer, great.  Express your thoughts in a respectful manner identifying the perceived deficiency and offer your solution(s).  There's nothing wrong with constructive criticism.  Any amount of success typically requires an ability to handle it.  While every participant should expect and encourage criticism, one should not fear being chastised for an honest submission.  Encourage others to succeed.

Communities like this have an excellent side effect of weeding out the undesirables.  Sometimes a turd finds its way to the punchbowl.  Pirates and scoundrels will not be tolerated.  Be professional.  It's not that difficult to make money with original ideas in a legitimate fashion.

Pushing your brand  There are designated areas.  Do it there.  Don't spam with ads and links.  Feel free to share your website(s) in your signature.  Share your brand, links, etc upon introduction and when sharing work.

Full disclosure
  If you are the owner, representative, associate, employee, or otherwise intimately associated with a brand; your relationship and a link to the brand's website or social media shall be posted in your sigline.

Selling your stuff
  There is a designated area.  It is intended for raw materials, tools, and machinery.  Police yourselves, vet buyers and sellers, don't send something without first receiving payment.  Nobody is responsible for your actions or decisions but you.  Do not sell your finished products here.  You should have a website for that.  If you don't, this community will get you pointed in the right direction.

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I'm a purchaser, evaluator, .gov rep, etc
  Excellent!  Welcome aboard!  Several companies here have their DUNS and CAGE and understand .gov purchasing protocol.  If you need to maintain a certain anonymity, we have relationships with vetted .mil contacts to assist in evaluating a project.  Just ask.

I'm not necessarily a gearmaker but I do fancy myself an enthusiast
  That's cool.  All gearmakers now, at some point, were not.  Everyone starts somewhere.  All are welcome here but please only contribute in a meaningful manner.  Please don't litter the forum with, "cool story, bro," or, "zomgbbqsammiches!  I need to buy that now!"  If you think what someone posted is totally neato, try PMing or emailing them.  Now that we've installed a, "like," mod, click the like icon to express your appreciation.  Posts irrelevant to a topic may be deleted.

There is an amazing resource here.  Please treat it with respect for today and tomorrow.  Despite what some may say, bandwidth is not financially crippling.  So long as there is activity, this site will be maintained.  Should it be decided we no longer wish to financially support this forum, we'll pass it along to a vetted party.

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