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Platforms / Multicam Tropic Belt.
« on: September 23, 2015, 11:25:10 AM »
Just did up a Tropic belt for myself.

LOOKING FOR 5-10y on M90 Swedish camo in either 500D or 1000D and in 70D

Vendors and sources / Source for Landau Underpad
« on: September 15, 2015, 07:03:54 AM »
Here is a source for Launau underpad thanks to a post from Gear Dynamics in his padded leg rig thread.  I thought it would be good to have listed in the sources section.

J.Ennis Fabrics

Platforms / LIB, Lightweight Individual Belt
« on: September 15, 2015, 06:58:32 AM »
Here is a lightweight Individual Belt Unpadded

3.25" tall x 32 PALS Columns (smaller versions available)
Requires an inner belt
Outer belt wraps the inner belt and seals with Velcro, this create a snug fit to the riggers belt.
The Velcro bottom allows for a subload to be attached to the riggers belt at any position
Attachments for H or X style harness.

Concept, design, and engineering / War/Battle Belts thoughts and questions
« on: September 13, 2015, 09:48:23 AM »
Hey all, I'm just wondering who makes war belts here as in the outer PALS grid portion not inner or riggers part.

I saw one from AWS inc last night which was very interesting they used a ton of Velcro which I think would be problematic but it was very light as they only used small 2x2 PALS grid panels instead of a typical load carrying belt.

I'm looking at making a system up with a yoke as well but just wanted to ask a few questions to helpfully cut down on revisions.

How much padding is adequate 1/8" inch 1/4"?
Do any of you also use spacer mesh or does that wear to fast in this application?
How do you handle possible subload configurations?
Do you use a stiffeners or just rely on the inner belt for that portion?
How contoured do you make it, or if only doing two to three rows is straight fine?
Is four suspension points ok or would prefer the option to use 6-8 more like the British system?
Is Velcro on the inside required like on the hsgi suregrip belts or is that just over kill?
How do you handle girth go with a mean, have an adjustable method or build different sizes?
Do you add anything in for lumbar/lower back support?
I'm looking at doing only two rows of PALS so instead of the one inch gap between each row should I just add another row of webbings to have three stack on top of each other?

Here is what I'm planning so far
-three inches tall by x (non-adjustable for length)
-straight three rows of PALS grid on the outside
-Double layer 1000D fro the PALS grid, single layer on the body side.
-on the body side use a sandwich of 1/8" inch foam, 30-200d and a layer of 3mm spacer mesh all on top of the 1000D folded not bound.
-add a few lengths of noslip to help with creep
-four points to add a suspension system
-use 1" Velcro to seal the bottom, this will keep things from flapping as well as allow for subload access to the riggers belt.
-sew closed a few spots to help the Velcro seam to stay closed, ie both ends and where the suspension links would be located above.
-square loops for suspension attachment with webbings which run top to bottom on the PALS seam on top of it, using the second vertical stich at the front edge of the PALS grid and three inches from center on both sides on the rear.

Here is a sketch of what I'm thinking.  the hashed blue it the padding which will be folded down. The picture didn't turn out well trying another format




Hopefully this gives you a little sense of what I'm trying to accomplish, hopefully its not to scatter

Thanks, any input would be great before I make the first attempt at this.

Pouches / PRU - Pouch, Rifle, Universal
« on: September 12, 2015, 06:56:26 PM »
A universal riffle pouch. Inspired from the historical HSGI Taco and may other which have come along since.  Here is mine to add to the list.

Double layered 1000D with adhesive
PALS grid
3/4" webbings for the side wall
1/8" shock cord

Pouches / Multi Tool Pouch
« on: August 29, 2015, 08:33:45 PM »
I made this today for my SOG PowerAssist Tool, and my first attempt at a pouch of this size so lots to improve upon and ill try and document those changes here.

Pouch has a removable Velcro flap for adjusting the height needed for your tool, PALS on the back for Malice Clips
Made with CADPAT TW, Camo green 483 webbing and thread, OD Velcro

Link to Album

Plans to improve upon
-shrink or eliminate the 5038 tape
-incorporate a belt mount option while keeping the PALS grid
-maybe add elastic for secondary retention.
-make a larger version which will have an internal pocket to home a bit set.
-on the flap use a wide piece of material so I can completely hide the raw edges
-find a place to put a Canadian flag on it lol

let me know what you think.

Off Topic / image sharing
« on: August 24, 2015, 04:48:41 PM »
So what do you guys use, I typically use one drive however it doesn't like sharing images on here and I can only link to them, its kind of frustrating.

Packs and bags / Patrol Ruck based on a DEI 1609 frame
« on: August 24, 2015, 03:49:46 PM »
Here is a Patrol Ruck I have done up for myself it fairly comfortable for the size on 10KMor less hikes I haven't taken it any further yet.

- Internal pouch sized for a source 3L low profile bladder
- Number of square loops on top, sides and bottom to tire in a radio or other items
- The flap/opening panel has a slip pocket, Velcro PALS and Elastic PALS above the slit pocket
- The remainder of the flap/opening panel is dressed with a PALS Grid to attach pouches and help organize items
- Top handle has 2 Exit Ports on either side od the handle for Hydro/comms
- Shoulder straps are curved and fully adjustable for height
- Shoulder straps and sternum straps are quick release Snap Dragon buckles
- Shoulder straps have a backup metal buckle for in field quick repair
- Shoulder straps are fully removable and replace able if user is larger or small than a medium size
- All shoulder and lift loader strap shave a loop handle end to ease of tightening
- Main pack size is 64L
- Sustainment pouches are 8L
- Extra Large Claymore style pouch is 16L
- DEI 1609 frame is Plate compatible meaning it is designed to wrap around the plat on your back

Link to pictures - OK Link is correct now, working on another photo method

Pouches / Sustainment Pouch 8L
« on: August 24, 2015, 03:45:26 PM »
Here is a Sustainment Pouch not much to say about it is pretty plain but will be handy on the ruck.  It's about 8L in size.

Link to pictures

Pouches / SAW/Utility Pouch
« on: August 24, 2015, 03:34:35 PM »
Here is a SAW/Utility pouch.

I tried to take a few of the pouches which are out there and use a few design ideas from them.

Top lid uses 3 rows of PALS similar to the CPGear 200rnd pouch, on my I also extend the webbing down to the SRB.
The Lid uses a tapered design to fully enclose the pouch similar to the USMC FILBE Sustainment pouch.  It is sew into the back seam to ensure a full closure.  With it only a small section on the seam it still fully opens the lid when pulled.
I also added a pouch wide flap to help opening if you do not use the SRB to pull it open to the lid on the front.
The strap is sew into the bottom seam to allow for it to also be used as a compression strap when used as a utility pouch.
It is constructed with three pieces of material, Lid, Back, Front & Sides.  All seams are internal to the pouch and are overlocked snitched.

Link to pictures

Platforms / Rip Away Panel
« on: August 24, 2015, 02:51:29 PM »
Here is a Rip Away Panel I did up, It can be secures with or without the strap wrapping around the pouch based on how you attach (orientate) the outside panel to the pouch.

Things I would change is probably use 2 x 2" Velcro on the outside edges instead of the 4" in the center of it.

Link to pictures.

Materials science / Adhesives What one.
« on: July 31, 2015, 06:35:29 AM »
Hey all I'm looking to get a spray adhesive to attach nylon back to back as well as nylon to foam.  Thanks you in advance for taking the time to read and offer comments.

right now I want to limit it to one can due to costs and experimentation if possible as I'm just starting to learn about the characteristics of bonding 2 layers of fabric together along with sewing them. 

Here are my options

From this link is more details on the items below -

3M Foam Fast 74 - mentions bonding of urethane and latex foam.  I am assuming it will bond urethane coating am I wrong?
3M Hi-Tack 76 - mentions fabric, carpet, wood etc but not foam.  Will it work for foam as well?
3M Rubber & Vinyl 80 - seem like more for rubber and vinyls and not recommended for polyethylene or polypropylene.
470 Sluyter Feather - urethane and latex foams to themselves, fabric
476 Sluyter Feather - Used for bonding urethane and latex foams to themselves, fabrics, wood and metal surfaces. Formulated to reduce "soak-in" and staining on fine delicate materials and fabrics.

From this link is more details on the items below -
JEFBon 88 - Foam and Fabric adhesive designed to bond urethane foams and fabrics to metals, supported vinyls, wood, paper and leather.
Camie 393 Headliner, Trim & Laminating Adhesive was developed for the harsh, demanding applications found in the RV, marine, manufactured housing, and van conversion industries. This product is recommended for bonding applications requiring either higher temperature resistance, higher moisture resistance, or higher strength. Camie 393 can be used for decorative trims, laminates, woodworking, carpeting, upholstery, insulation, headliner and hull liner.

Packs and bags / CADPAT MAP Bag
« on: July 17, 2015, 11:36:58 PM »
Hey All I have always wanted a small bag for just a few things to go with my CADPAT kit, I finally make a MAP bag similar to the Eagle one for myself.  I added in internal straps to aid in securing gear.  This wont be a production thing, just a personal bag.

enjoy, below is a link to the photo as I still have a few issue posting images here.

I am looking for 1 or 2 waterproof zippers for a project if anyone has any or knows where I can get 1-2 open top please let me know.


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