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X-Pac and 3-Layer Gore-Tex in MultiCam
« on: February 08, 2018, 04:04:20 PM »
I've reached out to 1947 LLC, but does anyone have sources for this material in Classic MultiCam?

Thanks!

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Re: X-Pac and 3-Layer Gore-Tex in MultiCam
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2018, 05:07:27 PM »
Have you tried contacting Dimensional Polyant directly for the X-Pac?

Ask for their 2nds and overrun list. They may have what you are looking for without a large minimum order requirement.

POC is:
Hale Walcoff
860-928-8326
hale.walcoff@dimension-polyant.com

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Re: X-Pac and 3-Layer Gore-Tex in MultiCam
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2018, 10:45:59 AM »
For Gore-Tex, the only proper Source is directly from W.L. Gore. And that's pretty much impossible. Not to mention that you need their approval for each product made to be able to sell it as Gore-Tex. Rumor has it that they have a legal team that sends C&Ds left and right to anyone who uses their brand without their approval.
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Re: X-Pac and 3-Layer Gore-Tex in MultiCam
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2018, 03:45:44 PM »
For Gore-Tex, the only proper Source is directly from W.L. Gore. And that's pretty much impossible. Not to mention that you need their approval for each product made to be able to sell it as Gore-Tex. Rumor has it that they have a legal team that sends C&Ds left and right to anyone who uses their brand without their approval.

Gore requires that your assembly methods and materials be 100% signed off, dated and legalized by them. Apparently it's because they warranty the product made, not just their fabric. When I spoke with Gore last year, asking about getting material sample booklets for some prototyping, the lady I spoke with in manufacturer service basically told me "if you're a small operation, you're out". So for owner/operator firms, unless you're cool with them going through your shop and approving every last little thing in terms of construction(even modifications down the line), it can really become a headache. Hence why the big guys can do it, simply because they can set up dedicated lines for massive runs of product. Those of us who are doing small runs, but cannot have dedicated production lines that are pre-approved, and will remain that way, good luck.

I've seen odd rolls of "Gore Tex" material sold online, but if you brand yourself as using Gore Tex, as Essal pointed out, they will most likely send you a cease & desist order should they find out you're using their product and using their trademark.

Thankfully Cordura Brand is much more customer friendly, and their own line of fabrics is expanding, especially into lightweight technical fabrics for apparel and sportswear.

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Re: X-Pac and 3-Layer Gore-Tex in MultiCam
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2018, 09:57:18 PM »
This wasn’t for us, but a supplier. Interesting info though.

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Re: X-Pac and 3-Layer Gore-Tex in MultiCam
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2018, 04:27:36 PM »
Not trying to get off topic here, but...

I used to work at a high end outdoor store. We carried all the big Gore authorized brands: Arc’teryx, Mountain Hardwear, marmot, Patagonia, etc... from dealing with those companies and the industry, I was under the impresssion that Gore will work with anyone (who purchases their minimums), HOWEVER, in order for you to physically put the Gore-Tex logo/name on your product,  you have to meet their production/assembly requirements. Those companies would have to build the product exactly to spec, and send them to Gore to go through their rain chamber and other testing procedures. After the evaluation, then you could advertise with the Gore name.

I have never officially looked into it tho as I do not own a welder.

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Re: X-Pac and 3-Layer Gore-Tex in MultiCam
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2018, 04:57:09 PM »
All the statements about Gore sound about right. I've been involved with product testing for Gore for a number of years, and even as a product tester, they are extremely tight lipped with information sharing regarding construction techniques and methods that are approved. Here is an article that sheds some light on the waterproof breathable industry and Gore specifically: https://www.outsideonline.com/1898541/insane-membrane I wouldn't say it is a puff piece for Gore.

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Re: X-Pac and 3-Layer Gore-Tex in MultiCam
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2018, 06:57:17 AM »
Is this the three layer you are looking for? 
http://rockywoods.com/3-Layer-Gore-Tex-FLEECE-Ripstop-Camouflage-Fabric-MultiCam-Camo
I ordered a sample of this maybe a year ago with no issues.  I was considering making a poncho type deal for myself.

Full disclosure, I'm just a hobbiest/roll my own guy so no clue on the advertising a final product made with this type deal.

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Re: X-Pac and 3-Layer Gore-Tex in MultiCam
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2018, 12:59:22 PM »
2000xjclassic, not sure if that is the material. I was asking for a supplier. I assume 1947LLC has sorted it out.