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PALS Adapter Hardware
« on: April 17, 2018, 02:33:45 PM »
We are thinking of producing some PALS webbing hardware and I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts and opinions. We posted these on our social media last week. They are metal buckles that mount to PALS webbing (or slots), and allow various strap attachment options. These prototypes pictured are machined from 6061 T6 Aluminum and are Cerakoted black. The production versions would be anodized, like our slider buckles. They are 1/8" think and weigh only 6g. Comparatively, an ITW G-Hook weighs 10g. Our initial vision for these was as an attachment buckle for our single point Rig-Mounted Sling. We had two types made up; one with a centre slot and one with side slots.

Centre Slot

- Arguably stronger
- Mounts to only one PALS channel
- More difficult to install
- Allow for horizontal webbing attachment to either side bar

Side Slots

- Possibly weaker
- Mounts to two PALS channels, straddling the bar tack
- Easier to install
- Possibly attach horizontal webbing to centre bar

So far I think I like the centre slot better, but the slot will need to moved to the opposite side, possibly closed up slightly. I think it has a cleaner look, potentially stronger (no way for us to quantify this), and the fact that it only needs one channel of PALS is nice. The other style does have the potential to act as a "link" between two sewn webbing loops, although I can't think of a specific application for that. The two slot design also does look "flatter" when installed.






 

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Re: PALS Adapter Hardware
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2018, 03:59:25 AM »
What would the cost be ??
I can imagine quite a few applications

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Re: PALS Adapter Hardware
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2018, 12:32:31 PM »
Nothing firm yet. The intent is to retail these parts through.


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Re: PALS Adapter Hardware
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2018, 04:56:56 AM »
A sturdy version of the C-loop is something on my mind. Why use repair GTSR buckles when you don't need the regulation?

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Re: PALS Adapter Hardware
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2018, 11:01:15 AM »
WBTactical, I really do like the slotted loop buckle, but the plastic duraflex version is just too weak. We could look at doing a metal version, but the cost might be prohibitive. I would think for such a small part that water jet or laser cutting might be the best choice. After that it would need to be blasted or tumbled to knock off the sharp edges, and then some sort of anodize or coating.

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Re: PALS Adapter Hardware
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2018, 12:52:25 AM »
The correct way is to 3D print the piece in acetal, test it then contract short-run production with one of the companies offering short run injection molding on 3D printed molds.
Kind of want to take care of this one but I don't have the time right now.

Edit: I found the old blueprints I made for this part and contracted the 3D print. Let's see what we can make. Crowdfunding would be a good way to pay for the initial run.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2018, 01:02:24 AM by Bootcat »

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Re: PALS Adapter Hardware
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2018, 12:33:58 PM »
It's good to see I an on the right track on stuff ,I have been working on an idea similar to this for a few months ,
I am working on a project ( you know the one ,the one to sell to the big boys) and am trying to reduce different parts ,
I have tried 6061, in sheet form ,I found it too soft and easier bent ,I went for 6083 in an extrusion ( 50x3) I find this tougher ,but I have to spot anneal to bend it or it cracks.
the alloy one is a mark 5 ,and the kydex one is mark 6 ,the difference is the position for the elastic.
the style you are working on could easily be made on a brake/punch press cheaper.
I am open to critique,please


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Re: PALS Adapter Hardware
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2018, 12:35:33 PM »
I tried posting picture ,but couldn't

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Re: PALS Adapter Hardware
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2018, 01:32:30 PM »
Are your pics hosted on another site, like imgur?

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Re: PALS Adapter Hardware
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2018, 02:29:18 AM »
the only thing like that I use is instagram ,I ll sign up for imgur though

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Re: PALS Adapter Hardware
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2018, 04:59:13 AM »
And this idea? or would there be too many splits?